Pinto horse breeders (Tobiano Paint, Quarter and Clydesdale X), horse sales in Victoria, Australia.
In our modest breeding program we focus on reasonably priced Black and White Tobiano horses with proven excellent temperament and conformation.
Our stallion “Midnight Joe” is a Tobiano Paint Horse with Doc, Lena & Spinafex bloodlines and is standing at stud for live cover.
Our goal is to breed quality over quantity and our mares have a proven record of producing spectacular foals.
Midnight Joe has been genetically tested, he is negative for the health defect genes HYPP, HERDA & OLWS.
Joe has the following gene colour traits:
Tobiano - nT
Red/Black factor - Ee
Agouti - aa
All our horses are wormed, trimmed and have dental checkups regularly and as required. We ensure they have quality pasture using proven land management techniques for weed control and rotate paddocks regularly.
As our herd health is paramount, we make a point of ensuring all fences are built or converted to a 'horse friendly' configuration using electric plus white slighter wire and white poly droppers as spacers (and definitely no barb or ring-lock).
We wean our foals at 4+ months and they are well handled using using a gentle method that ensures good psychological and physical health.
Registered/Registerable horses, is it really important?
This can be a topic of great debate. We have generally chosen not to register our horses purely for financial reasons.
For example, our Stallion Midnight Joe is registerable with AQHA, PHAA and Pinto societies, however the fees involved in many of the societies are quite considerable, and if we were to go down that route we would have to double the asking price for his progeny to cover our expenses. So that is the major benefit passed on to our buyers, because we can offer budget priced quality horses.
We know that not all horse lovers have significant wealth to pay top dollar, so we cater to those budget conscious buyers.
What do you get for your registration fees anyway?? Well in short if you are not going to show your horse, not much other than a paper trail, the societies use most of their income to support horse shows and advertising. Thus if you want a horse for pleasure, companionship, trail riding, eventing, or just breeding for the budget market, it is not a necessity.
Some (primarily breeders of expensive registered horses) say unregistered horses are poor quality, this is just not true...and in some instances it can be the opposite as health issues from inbreeding can be a consequence of adhering to the strict rules of some of the registration organisations. The fact is there are both good and poor quality horses whether they are registered or not. We have learned that high priced horse breeders don't like the competition from small time budget conscious breeders like us, and often try to discredit the quality of the cheaper horses.
Awareness of how to recognise a horse with good confirmation, its history, vices like kicking, bucking & biting, general ground manners and any health defects (i.e. vet check) is the key to finding a good quality horse. Of course if a horse is registered its linage can be more easily considered, so there is that one benefit which generally comes at a considerable price.
I hope this helps potential horse buyers in their decision making to find the right horse at the right price.
COLOURED HORSES 101
PINTO: A Pinto horse has a coat COLOUR that consists of large patches of white and any other colour. The distinction between "Pinto" and "Solid" can be tenuous, as so-called "Solid" horses frequently have areas of white hair. Many BREEDS of horse carry Pinto patterns, including but not limited to Paint Horses and Gypsy Cobs. Common Pinto marking include, Tobiano, Overo and the Sabino patterns, see below.
TOBIANO: Is a spotted COLOUR pattern commonly seen in Pinto horses, produced by a dominant gene (nt/TT). The Tobiano gene produces white-haired, pink-skinned patches on a base coat colour. The colouration is present from birth and does not change throughout the horse's lifetime, unless the horse also carries the Gray gene. Tobianos are frequently referred to as "Coloured" or as Piebald (black and white) or Skewbald (white and any base colour other than black). However, Bay and white horses are also referred to as Tri-Coloured.
OVERO: Refers to several genetically unrelated Pinto COLOURATION patterns of white-over-dark body markings in horses, and is a term used by the American Paint Horse Association to classify a set of Pinto patterns that are not Tobiano. Overo is a Spanish word, originally meaning “like an egg." There are at least three genetically different spotting patterns which fall under the "Overo" classification: Frame/Lethal White Overo (LWO), Sabino Overo (SB1), and Splash or Splashed White Overo (SW). To complicate matters further, some of the spotting gene patterns can be combined to produce a horse with multiple colour traits, such as the Tovero. Some patterns may be polygenic, dominant, or incomplete dominants, and spotting can be so minimally expressed on an individual that the animal is mistaken for a "Solid" coloured horse.
SABINO: Is a group of white spotting COLOUR patterns in horses that affect the skin and hair. A wide variety of irregular colour patterns are accepted as Sabino. In the strictest sense, "Sabino" refers to the white patterns produced by the Sabino 1 (SB1) gene. Sabino patterning is visually recognized by Roaning at the edges of white markings, belly spots, irregular face markings, especially white extending past the eyes or onto the chin, white above the knees or hocks, and "splash" or "lacy" marks anywhere on the body, but particularly on the belly. Some Sabinos have patches of roan patterning on part of the body, especially the barrel and flanks. Some Sabinos may have a dark leg or two, but many have four white legs. Both blue and brown eyes are seen. At one end of the Sabino spectrum, the SB1 gene, when homozygous, can produce a horse that is almost completely white with pink or only partially pigmented skin. Some forms of Sabino genetics are also thought to be the most common reason for solid-coloured horses with "chrome," a term which can refer to horses with bold white markings on the face and high white leg markings. The most generous definition of Sabino can include horses with as little white as a chin or lower lip spot.
TOVERO: Is a mix of Tobiano and Overo COLOURATIONS in Pinto horses and Paint Horses. Some characteristics of a Tovero coloured horse include dark pigmentation around the ears, sometimes called a "Medicine Hat" or a "War bonnet". Dark pigmentation around the ears, expanding to cover the forehead and/or eyes. Isolated "shield" dark markings completely surrounded by white, particularly on the face or chest.
One or both eyes blue. Dark pigmentation around the mouth, which may extend up the sides of the face and form spots. Chest spot(s) in varying sizes. These may also extend up the neck. Flank spot(s) ranging in size. These are often accompanied by smaller spots that extend forward across the barrel, and up over the loin.
Spots, varying in size, at the base of the tail.
PAINT: Is a BREED of horse that combines both the conformational characteristics of a western stock horse with a Pinto spotting pattern of white and dark coat colours. Developed from a base of spotted horses with Quarter Horse and Thoroughbred bloodlines.
APPALOOSA: Is a BREED best known for its colourful leopard-spotted coat pattern. There is a wide range of body types within the breed, stemming from the influence of multiple breeds of horses throughout its history. Each horse's colour pattern is genetically the result of various spotting patterns overlaid on top of one of several recognized base coat colours. It and several other physical characteristics are linked to the leopard complex mutation (LP).
GYPSY COB: Is a small draught BREED, popularly recognized for its abundant leg feathering and common black and white, or "piebald", coat colour, though it can be of any other colour as well. The Gypsy Cob has powerful muscling, correct leg conformation of a pulling horse, and flashy action.
CLYDESDALE: Is a BREED of draught horse derived from the farm horses of Clydesdale, Scotland, and named after that region. Although originally one of the smaller breeds of draught horses, it is now a tall breed. Often bay in colour, they show significant white markings due to the presence of Sabino genetics. The breed was originally used for agriculture and haulage, and is still used for draught purposes today.
HORSE COLOURS: There are many colour variants associated with the coloured breeds and patterns above including the basic Bay, Chestnut/Sorrel, Black, and Grey or more complex colours and dilutions that include Roan (i.e. Red/Blue), Champagne, Cream (i.e. Buckskin, Palomino & Cremello) and Dun, Pearl (i.e. Perlino) and also Silver. These colours may also be in combination with each other. GENE tests can be carried out to identify most of the traits that I have mentioned above.
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